Holy new champions, Batman! While my predictions for Extreme Rules didn’t really pan out too well – and neither did the PPV itself, for that matter – the company was definitely shaken up. 48 hours after I posted last week’s ThinkSoJoE’s thoughts, four Championships were in the hands of somebody different. In fact, there were FIVE title changes in that span. If that doesn’t set the tone for a big week in professional wrestling, I don’t know what does.
During our Extreme Rules coverage on Sunday, Drowgoddess and I pondered the fact that Batista hadn’t climbed the cage once in the buildup leading to his match at Extreme Rules against Randy Orton. He didn’t climb the cage at all during the match either, yet still won the WWE Championship. After the fact, we found out that Batista had been injured before the show and was scheduled for surgery two days later. It was originally believed to be a torn bicep, which is a very severe injury, but the word going around is it’s just a torn tendon, not nearly as severe. WWE, however, says that it’s a torn bicep, which is leading some Internet Wrestling Community pundits to speculate that it’s a coverup for a wellness policy violation. What do I think? I think WWE is lying to us, not to cover up an injury, but to add more impact to Batista’s earlier than expected return. They’ve been doing this for a few years now – John Cena at the Royal Rumble in 2007 comes to mind. If he did fail a drug test, I seriously doubt they’d have given him the WWE Championship the day before his suspension kicked in.
Speaking of the WWE’s wellness policy, the roster is one Superstar shorter than it was last week as Umaga was released for failing a second drug test and refusing to go to rehab. The IWC is comparing this to Jeff Hardy’s termination from WWE several years ago for some reason. TNA is apparently interested in bringing in Umaga once his 90 day no-compete clause is up.
The WWE roster is actually one Diva shorter as well, as Vickie Guerrero has given her notice and officially quit as RAW General Manager last week. The new GM is scheduled to be named this week on the three hour edition of RAW, which happens to eminate from Charlotte, NC. I’ll give you one guess as to who the IWC “journalists” expect to be the chosen one. I’ll also tell you why it won’t be who you’d expect. The standard recovery time for the The Randy Orton Super Magic Mega Kick of Final Ultimate Death!!!is around four months. Ric Flair was hit with the move a mere two weeks ago. There’s no way the WWE is going to try and make us believe that a 60 year old man managed to come back from the devestating move quicker than Triple H or Batista did. I’m not going to make a guess as to who it will be, but I’m willing to bet that it’s not Flair.
BoredWrestlingFan.com turned 1 this past Tuesday, and in the 369 days we’ve been around, we have never once mentioned Combat Zone Wrestling. There’s probably a pretty good reason for that, but reports have come in that a CZW wrestler was severely injured doing one of the “company’s” patented light tube spots. According to reports, a wrestler by the name of Nick Gage severed a main artery after taking a bump on a light tube. Gage never passed out, instead running to the back in a panic before being air lifted to a local hospital. It’s said that he lost a lot of blood, and not really knowing what to do the wrestlers started an impromptu battle royal. The card was apparently taking place in one of the wrestlers’ parents back yard, which is probably why this is the first time we’ve ever mentioned CZW here. Don’t worry though folks, thankfully CZW’s website reports that Gage is going to be ok.
Rumor was making it’s way through WWE this past week that Rey Mysterio was leaving the company. These rumors appear to be unfounded as it’s been reported that Rey just wanted the week off.
Speaking of taking time off, John Cena came home early from the WWE’s tour of Mexico amidst rumors that he was getting married. It was, in fact, his brother that tied the knot. Cena is allegedly getting married in July.
Not a lot of TNA news this week, but what do you expect when the company tapes a month of shows in two nights? Supposedly a wrestling website reported that new TNA Knockout Tara (formerly known as Victoria in the WWE) had an affair with Chris Benoit before the tragic murder suicide that ended the life of Benoit, wife Nancy, and son Daniel. Tara got wind of the report and denies everything, even challenging the site that started the rumor to come to her hometown and watch her take a lie detector test. It’s about time somebody who didn’t like something somebody on the internet said about them actually did something about it.
That’s about it for this week, but before I go, an interesting couple of tidbits – Batista’s win at Extreme Rules was the first time in WWE history that the WWE Championship has changed hands in a traditional steel cage match. Also, the span between last Monday (June 1st) and this past Sunday (June 7th) is the first time that the WWE, ECW, World Heavyweight, Intercontinental, and United States Championships all changed hands within a week.
That’s it for me folks, stay tuned tomorrow for an all new Random Randomness from JT!
* NOTE: Due to the f*(#ing Pittsburgh Penguins, I’m watching Game 7 of the Stanley Cup Finals tonight, and as such, I’m watching SmackDown early (like, 1PM early) via YouTube and therefore may miss some non-essential stuff. *
CM Punk is the NEW WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION and he makes his way out to the ring as JR tells the tale of Punk cashing in Money In The Bank after Jeff Hardy defeated Edge in a hellacious ladder match this past Sunday at Extreme Rules. The new Champion takes the microphone and says that he’s going to cut to the chase. He wanted to clear up a few things. Ever since he cashed in, there have been grumblings that say Punk stole the World Heavyweight Championship from Jeff Hardy. Punk doesn’t see it that way. Last year, when he cashed in on Edge, nobody saw it that way. Punk can’t take back what he did, nor does he want to. He’s proud to stand in the ring as the new World Heavyweight Champion. He earned the right to cash in that briefcase when he put his body on the line at WrestleMania. There was an opportunity to become champion staring him in the face, and he capitalized on it. It doesn’t make him a bad guy, that’s the whole point of the Money In The Bank briefcase. It wasn’t the most popular decision in the world, but Punk’s never done anything just to be popular, he’s always done what’s best for himself. The World Championship is something he’s worked very hard to attain. It’s the entire reason he’s a WWE Superstar to begin with. The title means the world to him, and he stands here and promises to bring respect, honor, and integrity back to the World Heavyweight Championship. He’ll represent the WWE as Champion to the best of his ability.
Jeff Hardy comes limping out to the ring, showing the effects of the ladder match from this past Sunday. The fans chant Hardy’s name, and he says that he didn’t come out to complain about what Punk did. That’s not his style. Punk thinks he earned it, Hardy doesn’t agree. Neither do the fans. Punk won Money in the Bank and could cash it in whenever he wanted to, but Punk cashed in on the wrong guy. Punk understands that Hardy is angry, but he wants Jeff to understand where he’s coming from. The fans chant “Hardy” again, and Punk says he didn’t put him in a ladder match at Extreme rules, Jeff put himself in one. The night he picked a ladder match, a lightbulb went off that said “that’s my night.” It didn’t matter who won, that was when Punk was going to cash in, and, well, Jeff won. Hardy doesn’t care about Punk’s reasons, Hardy Senses “shelfishness.” Does Punk care about his fans? The fans chant “Hardy” again. Hardy doesn’t walk the same path as Punk, and never will, but he wants his title back. He wants his rematch TONIGHT!
You think you know me…
Edge comes out to the stage, and says no. Jeff wants his World Title back? He wants his rematch? No, if anybody is getting their rematch, it’s Edge. Hardy wants to know if Edge lost it, Jeff beat Edge. Why is he out here anyway, this is about Hardy and Punk. Punk agrees, he didn’t beat Edge, he beat Jeff Hardy. Edge says Hardy got lucky at Extreme Rules, and both of them combined have not held the title as much as Edge. Hardy had the shortest World Heavyweight Championship reign in the history of the WWE, but at least he has some originality. Edge has been trying to figure out what makes Punk tick ever since he got here. Edge has been watching him and trying to figure out who he looks up to. He wants to be Edge. Punk laughs, and Edge explains that Punk calls his unique lifestlye Straight Edge – hello! Punk named it after him. He cashed in MITB twice, just like Edge. Newsflash. Punk never has been, and never will be Edge. Another newsflash – if Jeff Hardy wants another shot, he needs to get behind Edge. Edge is the only person getting a rematch tonight. Get it? Hardy says that’s not going to happen because Punk and Edge are both full of – and with that he pops Edge in the head with the microphone. He drops Punk with a Twist of Fate and nails the Swanton on the World Heavyweight Champion.
You know it’s the Mack Militant!
Teddy Long wants to sort it out. Punk is the Champion, and his first title defense will be at the Three-For-All this Monday. He’ll face the winner of tonight’s number one contenders match between Edge and Jeff Hardy. Holla holla holla!
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T-Lo is greeted in his office by the new Intercontinental Champion Chris Jericho, who wants to know why he’s not getting a chance at the World Heavyweight Championship. He sees it as a sign of disrespect. He’s a 5 time World Champion, he unmasked Rey Mysterio at Extreme Rules, and he’s a record 9 time Intercontinental Champion. T-Lo needs to make things right, Jericho’s dressed and ready to compete. What’s Long going to do? Long can’t seem to come up with a good argument against Jericho, but he’s already made the number one contenders match for tonight. He’d like to see if Jericho is worthy of contention, and tonight, he’s going to go one on one with CM Punk. Jericho tells him “nice job.”
Dolph Ziggler makes his way out to the ring for our opening contest on Friday Night SmackDown. His opponent is, for the second straight week, the Punjabi Playboy, The Great Khali!
Dolph Ziggler def. The Great Khali
Ziggler starts the match by – well, as Todd Grisham put it “wasting no time in wasting time.” He slides out of the ring, but when he gets back in, he gets clotheslined down to the mat. He slides out again, then tells the referee that Khali pulled his hair. Khali brings Ziggler back in the hard way, and takes him down with hard strikes. Ziggler starts to get some offense in, going after the leg of Khali, then locking in a front face lock. Khali easily battles out of it, picking Ziggler up and tossing him straight back down 7 feet to the canvas. Ziggler exits the ring before any more damage could be done. Ziggler uses Ranjin Singh as a shield on the outside, shoving him into Khali at 8, sliding back in at 9, and Khali gets himself counted out at 10. Ziggler outsmarted Khali for the count out victory!
Still to come, Jeff Hardy takes on Edge in a #1 Contenders match!
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World Heavyweight Champion CM Punk takes on Intercontinental Champion Chris Jericho later on tonight – interestingly enough, last week’s SmackDown had the World Heavyweight Champion against the Intercontinental Champion for the very first time – but it was Edge vs. Rey Mysterio. Guess that goes to show that a lot can happen in a week.
Michelle McCool and Layla are accompanied to the ring by Alicia Fox. At least, that’s what Justin Roberts said. Todd Grisham says it’s a six Diva match coming up. There was one of those last week, where Layla scored an upset pinfall on Women’s Champion Melina. Melina and Eve make their way out, and we know for sure that this is a tag team match, not a six Diva match. So instead of a six Diva clusterf*(#, it’s a four Diva clusterf^*(#.
Michelle McCool & Layla def. Melina & Eve
I know I say this every week, but I just don’t care about the WWE Divas. It’s not that they’re not as talented as the male Superstars, I think it’s more because they’re always stuck in multi-participant matches. Anyways, Alicia Fox distracts Melina, allowing Michelle to catch her with the Styles Clash Faith Breaker for the victory.
Up next, John Morrison teams with R-Truth to take on the World’s Greatest Tag Team of Shelton Benjamin and Charlie Haas.
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Apparently more women watched SmackDown last Friday than any show on Oxygen, CW, or Lifetime Network. Take THAT Oprah Winfrey! (Here’s hoping that last line gets us in the search results for Oprah Winfrey!)
AIN’T NO STOPPIN’ ME NOW!
Charlie Haas and Shelton Benjamin make their way out to Shelton’s music. Which is weird, because they have music as a team – it’s Charlie Haas’s music. John Morrison, fresh off an impressive match with Intercontinental Champion Chris Jericho last night on WWE Superstars, is out first for this match, and you can hear the women scream for him as he poses on the ropes. R-Truth must’ve finally got his employee ID badge, because he’s coming out from the back instead of the crowd for the second week straight. Truth says that The World’s Greatest Tag Team being back together is like Vanilla Ice and MC Hammer teaming up to do a rap song. Nobody wants to hear them, and nobody wants to see the WGTT. That’s the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. What a stupid catch phrase.
R-Truth & John Morrison def. Charlie Haas & Shelton Benjamin
Charlie Haas attacks Morrison from behind to start the match, allowing Benjamin to take advantage for the team. It doesn’t take long for Morrison to battle back, and just like last week, when it’s JoMo and The Gold Standard Shelton Benjamin in the ring, it’s time to kick back and watch. Morrison tags in R-Truth, who is a talented performer in his own right, but he allows himself to be distracted by Charlie Haas and taken down by Shelton Benjamin.
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Benjamin is in control when we come back, and it doesn’t slow down when we come back. Haas gets the tag and the WGTT does one of the tandem maneuvers that earned them the name. Haas is another talented worker, and he shows it off here as he manages to keep R-Truth away from his corner for a while. Truth finally turns the tide and tags in John Morrison, who takes down both members of the World’s Greatest Tag Team. He hits a springboard kick on Haas, but Benjamin breaks up the pin. Charlie Haas takes out R-Truth, and Morrison hits a unique kick on Haas before hitting the Moonlight Drive and the Starship Pain for the victory!
Still to come, Jeff Hardy vs. Edge, but up next, it’s CM Punk vs. Chris Jericho.
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The WWE would like to thank everybody who watched Extreme Rules on Pay Per View or on WWE.com. What, no love for those of us who managed to find one of the few streams WWE didn’t kill off?
Chris Jericho heads to the ring, Intercontinental Championship around his waist, and Rey Mysterio’s mask in his hand. He got that mask by ripping it off of Mysterio’s face this past Sunday at Extreme Rules. Come to think of it, that’s how he got the belt too. Jericho says he stands up for what he believes in, and he’s an honest man while 99% of us are liars and cheaters. He’s a success while 99% of us fail at everything. He believes that by unmasking Rey Mysterio he did him a favor. Now Mysterio doesn’t have to live his life in the shadows. He can live life without worrying if anybody recognizes him and knows who he truly is. Instead of thanking Jericho, he’s disappeared like a coward. In time he’ll realize that he’s been redeemed, led to his salvation by his savior, Chris Jericho. He’s exposed Myserio as a fraud, and he’ll let everybody know the same thing about CM Punk tonight. Jericho is better than CM Punk, because he’s the best at what he does. He guarantees a victory tonight, and there’s nothing that any of us can do about it. CM Punk’s music hits and the World Heavyweight Champion makes his way out to the ring.
CM Punk def. Chris Jericho
These guys have had great matches in the past and I don’t have any doubt that this will be another one. Both guys go for – and escape from – one another’s signature moves early in the match, just before the…
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It’s still a very entertaining match when we come back with Punk in control. It doesn’t take too long for Jericho to turn it around in this back and forth contest. Interesting side note. Punk won the World Heavyweight Championship last year after winning Money In The Bank at a WrestleMania yours truly attended. He did the same this year after winning Money In The Bank at this year’s WrestleMania, which was attended by Drowgoddess. BoredWrestlingFan.com has been a good luck charm for Punk, apparently. Anyways, I digress. Jericho tries to keep a slow an methodical pace, and Punk picks up the pace when he goes on offense. Like Morrison and Benjamin, Punk vs. Jericho is really one of those “kick back and watch” matches. Punk goes for a GTS, but Jericho blocks it, grabbing Punk’s leg and locking in the Walls of Jericho. Punk pulls himself to the ropes, breaking the hold. Jericho stalks Punk, trying to clothesline him out of the ring, but Punk ducks. Jericho goes to climb the ropes, but Punk kicks him down, then hits a superplex. Both men exchange blows, but Jericho ducks a Punk punch and hits the Codebreaker out of nowhere – but Punk got his foot on the ropes at two. Jericho starts to kick Punk, but Punk shows him how it’s done, kicking Jericho in the head and dropping him with the Go 2 Sleep for the victory! Another great match!
Who will Punk defend his title against at the Three For All on RAW? We’ll find out, tonight.
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Jeff Hardy makes his way out to the ring, still putting on his armbands. Edge is out next, and much like Jeff Hardy, he looks sore on his way to the ring. CM Punk comes to ringside and joins Todd Grisham and Good Ol’ JR on commentary.
Edge def. Jeff Hardy via disqualification
It’s a slow and deliberate pace to start off this match, which shows the effects of the ladder match from Extreme Rules. Punk once again explains why he chose Extreme Rules to cash in, and JR agrees that it was a good idea. Edge goes for a spear early but crashes into the ringpost, straight into our living rooms to enjoy a…
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Hardy is still in control, and was dominating through the break as he works on Edge’s arm that hit the ringpost earlier. Todd Grisham asks Punk who he’d rather face this Monday. He says he can’t pick one or the other because Hardy takes a lot of chances, but he’s beaten Edge before. Meanwhile, Edge takes control of the match. Hardy tries to mount a comeback, but Edge chop-blocks him and goes to work on the leg. Punk says that if you asked him now, he’d face Hardy because he could take out his knee. Hardy winds up in the Tree of Woe but gets himself down before Edge can take advantage, and we go to a…
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Edge is still working over Hardy’s leg when we get back. Hardy causes some separation, then catches an incoming Edge from the top rope with a kick and a DDT for a two count. The two take each other down with a double clothesline. Hardy starts to take control when the men get back up, getting a high pitched cheer when he takes his shirt off. Jeff goes to the second rope and drops the leg on Edge for a two count. Edge blocks a sitout leg drop by Hardy and locks in a variation on the Sharpshooter. Hardy gets the ropes to break the hold. Edge pushes his way out of a Twist of Fate attempt, but Hardy moves out of the way of Edge’s spear, sending Edge into the post again. Hardy drops Edge with a Twist of Fate, climbing the ropes, but Edge moves out of the way of a Swanton, but catches a flying clothesline on the outside instead. Edge tosses Hardy over the announce table into CM Punk, who dives in the ring and attacks Edge. The referee rings the bell, and Jeff Hardy realizes what just happened – Edge has won by disqualification.
Hardy dives back into the ring and attacks Edge. Edge goes for an Edgecution on Hardy, who reverses it into a Twist of Fate. CM Punk drops Hardy with a Go To Sleep and stands tall over both Edge and Jeff Hardy.
Backstage, Tiffany is sitting around with Teddy Long, who announces that this Monday on RAW, instead of a one on one match, it’s going to be CM Punk defending his World Heavyweight Championship in a triple threat match against Edge and Jeff Hardy.
My Thoughts: I would love to see a match between John Morrison and Rob Van Dam. Hell, make it a triple threat with Evan Bourne as well, and we’re looking at a match of the eternity candidate if you like the high fliers. Hey, speaking of high flying Triple Threat action, that’s what we’ve got coming up this Monday when CM Punk defends against Edge and Jeff Hardy on the Three For All. We’ll also see Christian challenge Tommy Dreamer for the ECW Championship, and a fatal four way between John Cena, Triple H, Randy Orton, and The Big Show for the vacant WWE Championship.
Anyways, tonight’s SmackDown continued the streak of awesomeness for the blue brand. These shows are exactly what wrestling shows should be all about. Sure, there’s talking, but it’s kept short and to the point. For the majority of two hours, you’re enjoying the finest professional wrestling on the planet, and that’s where RAW and iMPACT! get it wrong. SmackDown is the best wrestling television show there is – and it’s on free TV! You don’t even have to have cable to watch it. After today, though, you’ll need to be able to get digital channels to watch it in the United States. Hope you guys are prepared! See you tomorrow with another edition of ThinkSoJoE’s Thoughts!
Tonight’s episode is titled “Foley Fires Up Founder.” Why do I think of the skinny little speed freak bad guy from “The Crow,” who kept yelling, “Fire it up!Fire it up?” Ah, well.
Hey everybody and welcome to another review of the 4th most watched weekly WWE show…WWE Superstars. Fresh off the heels of “Extreme Rules,” what happened?
Match 1: Diva tag team match between Rosa Mendez and Beth Phoenix and the Bella Twins
I hate Diva wrestling, but the Bella Twins are HOTT! The end of the match saw the referee Marty Alias being distracted by Rosa and one of the twins fighting on the outside and Beth hit her finisher on the other twin. Beth Phoenix and Rosa Mendez get the win.
Is it just me, or is Superstars just really random?
After the match, there was a video package of the Batista/Randy Orton fued and showed HHH coming back to destroy Randy Orton yet again.
Match 2: Evan Bourne against Zack Ryder. Woo Woo Woo!
Zack Ryder is just weird. He’s the type of guy you just want to make fun of because he thinks he is cool, but in reality he isn’t. Doesn’t matter….he’ll be gone eventually. Somehow he warrented a long enough match to involve a commercial break. Anywho, Evan Bourne wins with the prettiest move in wrestling…the Shooting Star Press. This was a pretty long match, or at least it felt long.
Main Event time: The 9-time Intercontinental Champion, Chris Jericho against the Guru of Greatness, John Morrison.
This is yet another random match for WWE Superstars. I like the pairing, but it makes no sense. Jericho should be in the World Title picture, not doing IC spots. Morrison should be the IC champ at this point in his career. John Morrison can do anything he wants to in the ring. He is the most athletic performer I have ever seen in a WWE ring. The end of the match was extremely active, as Morrison about won several times. But in the end, Jericho gets the roll up with a tights grab on Morrison for the win. I hope that this begins a fued, but as we have seen with Superstars in the past, it probably won’t.
The show was random as usual. It seems like the perfect place to showcase Diva wrestling, the lower tier talent, and a main event that makes no sense to any storyline. Alrighty then, I shall see you again next week and thank you for reading.
An ECW review? On Bored Wrestling Fan? Yes folks, I’m finally back to watching the silver brand of World Wrestling Entertainment on a weekly basis, and for the first time in quite a while, I’m reviewing it!
After being involved in the coverage of WWE Extreme Rules this past week. II’m back to bring you my weekly Wednesday column. Now, all links will lead to my favourite racing moments or races or crashes, or just funny moments.
WWE
My opinions of Extreme Rules has already been expressed. So I’m going to comment on other things.
Umaga was released. A case of a guy who was pushed, then nothing. Pushed, then nothing. He had just recently come back and into the feud with CM Punk. The release comes as a bit of a shock but it isnt a surprise. He was getting pushed and pushed, and yet he wasnt getting the crowd reaction of a main event guy. Maybe he could do better in TNA. Speaking of which, guess where Mr. Kennedy’s going in September?
Vickie Guerrero quits as General Manager of RAW. Rumour has it, that she is leaving for good, to spend more time with her kids. Good for Vickie for wanting to spend time with your kids. No offence, but it seems, for the most part, you tarnished your late husband somewhat.
Triple H returns. Yes, the Game, the King of Kings returned on RAW to attack Legacy. Now, as we talked about during our Extreme Rules coverage, Hunter wasnt out for that long at all after the Scott Norwood kick. Shawn Michaels was out months, it ended the WWE career of RVD, and yet both Vince McMahon and Triple H were both out for about a month and a half. Those McMahons must have super powers or something.
TNA
To be honest, I missed iMPACT this week. due to my cable being down. Let’s see what I missed.
It doesnt look like much at all. The MMG and Lethal Consequences were named as Suicide’s opponents for the first ever X-Division King Of The Mountain. That isnt a shock at all. i’m sure I’ll have more next week.
I’m gonna finish this column with a reminder to Ricardo Rosset and Taki Inoue. Poor Taki needs to watch for cars, as for Ricardo. Well, thanks for making my night a whole lot better.
Peace out, or whatever, tune in next week, and read all the columns. Oh, and avoid the beer bottles, we just turned one, so we’re breaking it in. Well I am anyways, by drinking the place dry.
It’s been a year already? Normally after a year, I get bored with websites I create and they sit around with no updates – case in point. BoredWrestlingFan.com is different. After a year, BWF still updates nearly every day, sometimes several times a day. Our fan base continues to grow, and so does our site.
A big thank you to JT (who was the only person to have seen the BWF prototype besides myself), Drowgoddess (who is now the Executive Shareholder of BWF – she paid the 10 bucks to renew the domain), Legend Killer, and tharvey1. I couldn’t do this without you guys. A thank you to Vincent Kennedy McMahon, whose World Wrestling Federation got me into professional wrestling at a young age. Thank you to Ted Turner and Eric Bischoff for revitalizing wrestling in the ’90s. Thank you to Jeff Jarrett and Dixie Carter for kinda sorta keeping Vince on his toes. And mostly, thank you to all of the BWF readers for keeping us going when the shows start to suck (I’m looking at you, RAW).
Here’s to another great year of growth for BoredWrestlingFan!
I know, I know. I’v e been changing the format of the RAW review on a near weekly basis. I wasn’t intending to this time, but I wound up oversleeping and waking up just 5 minutes before the show started, leaving me with no time to set up a review. The important thing is, I watched RAW, and I’m going to tell you about it. Ready? Let’s go!
Legend Killer: This is the one they call ‘Legend Killer’ alongside Drowgoddess for the Extreme Rules Post-PPV recap
Drowgoddess: This is the one they call Drowgoddess alongside the notorious Legend Killer. Let’s recap this thing!
Legend Killer: First of all, we had the United States Championship match, where Kofi Kingston retained the title against William Regal, Matt Hardy and MVP
Now, to be honest, I didnt see much of this match, due to technical reasons
Drowgoddess: Kofi Kingston was certainly a popular choice with the fans, and for the first t ime in a long time, there doesn’t seem to be any grudge between the previous and current champs.
The focus was just on two guys who want to be the champ.
Sometimes, that’s all you really need.
Legend Killer: Did you really see the need for William Regal and Matt Hardy to be involved in the match?
Personally, I believe that they were there just to make up numbers, as they seemed to be as involved in this match as they were in the build-up to the Vickie/Santina Hog Pen match.
Drowgoddess: Agreed. Since Kofi just won the title off of MVP, perhaps a rematch that quickly might not have seemed enough. Regal and MVP have certainly had their differences, as have HArdy and MVP.
The history between all the guys was there.
Legend Killer: Was Kofi the deserved winner?
Drowgoddess: I think so. MVP is definitely the guy who is at the breakout point. He could very possibly get in the main event picture soon. HE’s the complete package, and he has huge fan support.
That being said, Kofi is the guy to step up to the place where MVP was at.
Kofi has tremendous athleticism, more charisma than half the roster, and a connection with the fans.
He’s exactly the kind of guy who should be wearing that belt now.
Legend Killer: He reminds me a bit of Shelton Benjamin
but I’ve never heard Kofi on the mic
Drowgoddess: He’s more conversational and comfortable in the little bit of backstage talking that I’ve heard from him, but he hasn’t had much mic time. Maybe now he will, and we can see what he’s like.
Legend Killer: As long as he doesnt put people to sleep, or make their ears bleed, he should be fine.
Drowgoddess: I think he’ll be ok, then.
Legend Killer: Next on the card was the Intercontinental Championship, where Chris Jericho not onlt captured the title for a record ninth time, but he also claimed the mask of Mysterio
Drowgoddess: Jericho has captured luchedor masks in the past, like Juventud Guerrera’s.
I wasn’t crazy about this outcome, though I’m taking a “wait and see” attitude because Jericho is so amazing.
Legend Killer: How long will it be before Rey Mysterio wrestles without a mask on WWE TV?
I’m looking at it, to be as early as SummerSlam
Drowgoddess: I hope he doesn’t. Part of his massive appeal to kids and to the Hispanic market is that mask. He’s a superhero. Seeing his face will kill that, even though it has been done before in WCW.
I know that’s no realistic, considering that Jericho took the mask, but Rey has a different mask almost every night. It’s not like his only one was stolen.
Legend Killer: maybe he comes out on Smackdown! with a paper bag on his head
Drowgoddess: Followed by The BEautiful People?
Legend Killer: quite possibly, that would surely be a swerve nobody saw coming
Drowgoddess: It’s a license to print money!
I know that the IC title is supposed to be the #2 guy in the company, but Jericho winning it is almost a step back. A 9-time champ is great, and he should have a belt, but he’s been at th etop before. This almost seems like something he doesn’t really need.
Legend Killer: Or it shows that the WWE has nothing for Jericho at this present time
Drowgoddess: That’s my thought.
Unless he goes after Punk now.
Legend Killer: They know he should hold a Championship belt, but they dont want him to hold the World Championship, as it wouldnt fit in with their plans
Drowgoddess: Which would be the greatest thing in the history of things.
Legend Killer: A Punk/Jericho feud would be something worth watching
Drowgoddess: If both guys were allowed to go all-out on the promos.
It would be GOLD, I say!
You don’t script those two.
Legend Killer: there’s no need to
Drowgoddess: You and I know that. Does WWE know that?
Legend Killer: for those who havent seen Punk’s promos in ROH, should check them out
Drowgoddess: Absolutely! The man caused near-riots. He went from being the most beloved guy in the building to the most reviled in the space of five minutes once.
Legend Killer: They probably do, but because of the G rating they’re trying to get, it wont happen
Drowgoddess: A true thing of beauty.
Legend Killer: The interesting thing here is what they do with Jericho and Mysterio from here on
Drowgoddess: I have no idea. If they mean to unmask Rey for good, it could backfire completely.
Jericho can’t go after Punk while tormenting Rey. He CAN, but it won’t work as well.
Legend Killer: unless Rey goes after Punk as well
Drowgoddess: Although I believe that at one point, Jericho was feuding with most of the roster.
Rey and Punk have no history, not really.
Legend Killer: It will be somewhat interesting seeing what happens
CM Punk defeated Umaga in a Samoan Strap match
I can see that this match was there, to make people think that Punk wasnt going to cash in MiTB later on in the night.
Drowgoddess: I was surprised at that. Punk actually got Umaga on “Smackdown,” so I thought Umaga would destroy him at the ppv.
Being the huge, huge Punk fan thatI am, I wanted him to win, but I really didn’t see it happening.
The real question is what does Umaga do now.
Legend Killer: Probably what he’s been doing before this match. Nothing.
Now, match four … ah yes, the ECW Championship
Tommy Dreamer’s last night on his contrac, and he becomes the new ECW Champion
What does this mean for ECW?
Drowgoddess: Hopefully, a return to its roots, however slight. Tommy Dreamer is the last of the ECW originals. Yes, I understand very well that the only two things the current and original ECW have in common are him and those three letters.
However, Tommy’s been heelish lately, and a heel Tommy as the ECW champ could be fantastic.
Imagine him taking the rest of the roster to task for not “getting” what ECW is really about, and re-enacting some of his worst momenbts upon them.
Imagine him losing the title and becoming GM of ECW.
Legend Killer: I would like to see Jack Swagger get caned in the middle of the ring, like Dreamer was back in the day.
Drowgoddess: I think it could only be good, even if nothing really changes in terms of the current product.
Legend Killer: Would they need more ECW originals besides Dreamer, in order for that to work?
Drowgoddess: His face turn writes itself. Tommy schools him for months, gets him in the ring for the caning, and Swagger takes it with, “Thank you sir, may I have another?”
Not really. Most of them are dead, crippled, retired, or in other companies.
There aren’t many to choose from. Tommy was, and always has, been the heart and soul of ECW, so he’s really all you need.
If you wanted to bring in others, like RVD, for example, it would certainly help, but it isn’t critical.
Legend Killer: How about say, one-off appearances?
Drowgoddess: I’d personally love it if Evan Bourne’s recent comments about the new ECW blowing the old ECW out of the water in all ways were to set up a Dreamer/Bourne conflict.
One-off appearances would be great.
Particularly if they were handled in true randomness fashion.
Legend Killer: But, as you mentioned, the majority are either too old, or in different companies like TNA
Besides RVD, is there anyone else they could bring in
Drowgoddess: Yes, but some on the indies, who are free to make appearances anywhere, could do it.
For example, the way that Balls Mahoney and Spike Dudley turned up on TNA for a one-shot was perfect.
If WWE would be willing to use guys like that who may have appeared on TNA but don’t work for them, there could be several people left.
Too bad someone treated Jim Mitchell like trash, he’d be a good one.
Balls, Spike, Mitchell, RVD, and possibly Mikey Whipwreck might be good choices.
Mikey retired, but he could make an appearance or two.
Legend Killer: What about guys like Storm and Credible?
Sandman and Sabu?
Drowgoddess: Storm might do it, but I’m not sure he’d be interested. I don’t think they’d ask Credible.
Legend Killer: possibly even a guy like Steve Corino
Drowgoddess: I don’t think that Corino, Sandman, and Sabu are on the WWE call list.
I’d love to see as many of the ECW originals turn up as possible, but considering how the WWE looks at people like that, I don’t think full reunions are likely.
It’s a shame really
Legend Killer: Imagine Paul Heyman returning to ECW, with Dreamer as Champion
We both agree that Tommy Dreamer being Champion is nothing but good for ECW
Drowgoddess: Yes.
Legend Killer: I think we’ve talked enough about this match. Santina Marella pinned Vickie Guerrero in the Hog Pen match to reclaim the Miss Wrestlemania crown
Drowgoddess: The less said about this mess the better.
If the only purpose of it was to divorce Vickie and Edge, then so be it.
Legend Killer: Couldnt agree more.
Batista defeated Randy Orton to become the new WWE Champion
Good move of bad move?
Drowgoddess: Bad. Very, very bad.
Legend Killer: How so?
Legend Killer: The only logic I can see why this is good, is to have Batista feud with Triple H
Drowgoddess: Some say that he was a main eventer coming back from an injury, and where else could he go but a main event push?
While there is truth to that, Batista didn’t have to WIN tonight.
I personally don’t care for the guy. He doesn’t entertain me. That’s irrelevent. The thing is that Orton has been so hot lately, and having anyone take the belt off him right now just feels like a very bad idea.
The match itself just didn’t seem good enough to be a main event world title match where the title changed hands. The whole match was a letdown.
Legend Killer: Batista isnt my cup of tea. I refer to him as ‘PenisHead’ in my columns, and him winning the title has destroyed any momemtum Randy Orton has made since winning the title at Backlash
This match wasnt worthy of a WWE Championship match. Batista cant climb the cage, and the match went way too quick for my liking
Drowgoddess: Agreed on all points.
Orton shouldn’t have lost the title to anyone yet, certainly not to Batista.
Legend Killer: The next match, saw John Cena beat the Big Show in a Submission match
the only thing I need to say is, did anyone not see Cena winning this match?
Drowgoddess: Stevie Wonder and the ghost of Helen Keller saw Cena winning this match.
Note to WWE: If you must have a submissions match, put guys in it who have actual knowledge of and ability in submission wrestling.
Awful. Just awful. Knowing the outcome didn’t help.
Legend Killer: The only move I knew either of these two could do, was Cena’s STFU. That right there, showed me that this match shouldnt of been a Submission match.
Is there any type of match that could have worked? I think an I Quit match could’ve been good.
Drowgoddess: COnsidering the negative attitude that WWE, and Vince in particular, has shown in the past towards submission wrestling, it’s not surprising that they didn’t think this through.
An “I Quit” match might have worked, or a “Last Man Standing” match, as was brought up in the thread.
Legend Killer: Those matches at least, would’ve made things less predictable
Drowgoddess: And less dull.
Legend Killer: A match involving John Cena being less dull?
Drowgoddess: I know.
I speak of madness, sir.
Legend Killer: Speaking of madness. That could be the word describe the results of the Ladder match between Jeff Hardy and Edge
Drowgoddess: In a positive way!
Legend Killer: Jeff Hardy won the World Title, only for CM Punk, to cash in his Money In The Bank briefcase, and end the night as new World Champion.
First off, let’s talk about the Ladder match itself. Was it a Main Event quality match>
Drowgoddess: It had main event quality spots. Overall, it wasn’t quite there. It was a very, very good match. I’m not insulting it or the guys involved in any way. The main event of any ppv, particularly when there is a stipulation like a ladder match, should be a Match of the Year candidate on basic principle.
While it blew away almost everything else on the show, it wasn’t quite that.
When you add ppv, main event, world title on theline, and ladder match, it should be epic.
However, I have to stress that nothing about thismatch was a letdown or in any way disappointing.
Legend Killer: This match definately had its high points. For example, Jeff Hardy’s Mid-Air Twist Of Fate, and both men destroying the Ladder on the otuside were great moments.
However, it all pales in comparison somewhat, to CM Punk.
Drowgoddess: I had heard nothing, absolutely nothing, about him possibly cashing the MITB shot tonight, so hearing his music play was a total shock.
Legend Killer: It made the, disappointment you could say, of Jeff Hardy winning the title, a lot brighter, seeing CM Punk cash in.
Drowgoddess: Jeff HArdy is extraordinarily popular. Most of the fans in attendance were thrilled that he won it. That he and Punk are both faces made me wonder, briefly, if Punk might be turning heel.
It opens up possibilities of an Edge/Punk feud, as Edge lost the title to Hardy, and Punk won it from HArdy, so Edge never lost the title to Punk.
Legend Killer: but it also opens up a new challenger
Drowgoddess: I truly did not think that they’d do the same thing twice. I thought for sure that Punk lose after cashing in his title shot. I was stunned in a good way when he won.
Legend Killer: Perhaps Punk will say he used Edge as inspiration
Drowgoddess: I could see that.
Legend Killer: Seeing as thats how Edge won the title using Money In The Bank
Drowgoddess: True, and Edge is constantly referred to as the”Ultimate Opportunist.”
Legend Killer: Could that work though, seeing as Punk didnt beat Edge for the title
Drowgoddess: He really didn’t have to. He could use Edge’s past actions as inspiration.
Legend Killer: Who do we see challenging Punk for the title?
and what does the happenings of this PPV, mean for Jeff Hardy’s much-documented Contract negotiations?
Drowgoddess: Edge will demand a rematch, for sure. Hardy may or may not stay with the company. Jericho could certainly go after him. Even Umaga could give it a shot.
Jeff Hardy’s contract negotiations are like Edge’s old entrance music. We know what they allow us to know. I personally think that nothing has been decided yet, and WWE got the best of both worlds.
If Hardy leaves, they don’t lose a champ and he goes out on his back.
If Hardy stays, he’s in a program for the top title after being taken advantage of in losing it.
They’ve covered themselves either way. I don’t think it tells us anything about Hardy’s current status, apart from the fact that nothing has been decided.
Legend Killer: Could the WWE be sending a message to Hardy, stating possibly that, ‘You would be World Champion if you re-sign’?
Drowgoddess: Definitely. The situation not only covers the WWE either way, it could be a very clear bribe, as it were.
If that’s what they are doing, I have no problem with it.
Legend Killer: When if Jeff Hardy’s contract up by the way?
Drowgoddess: I’m not sure. I thought that it was some time this month, but I could be wrong.
Legend Killer: It looks like being a very interesting next few months for SmackDown!
Drowgoddess: Indeed! It was already far and away the best show on WWE. I’m certainly going to be watching without fail.
Legend Killer: Arguments could be made that ECW is the better program
Drowgoddess: ECW is a very close second. It’s a smaller show, and talent seems to be less restricted or controlled, which is good. Some of the talent on ECW is awesome, and from an in-ring perspective, ECW may be the best program. In terms of an overall show, “Smackdown” takes the top spot.
Legend Killer: I agree, although with Dreamer as Champion, ECW could very well take the the spot
Drowgoddess: That it could. Over the next several months, both “Smackdown” and ECW could give wrestling fans something to feel proud about.
Legend Killer: What do you say for RAW’s future?
Drowgoddess: I have trouble watching RAW. Compared to the other two shows, it has felt boring, plodding, utterly ridiculous, or repetitive. With Batista as champ, I don’t know what that spells for Orton and the Legacy.
Having Orton chase the belt doesn’t work as well as him holding it.
Trips will turn up soon, and if he wants to be a heel, he can go after Batista again.
I don’t know what to say about RAW’s future, but it can only go up.
Legend Killer: Finally, what was your opinion on Extreme Rules as a whole?
Drowgoddess: Low. It was a weak show that did not live up to the name or the expectations. Kofi Kingston winning a title was great, but how “extreme” was that match, really?
The ladder match at the end and the aftermatch saved the show.
In general, they need to do better next time or scrap the idea altogether.
Legend Killer: I saw it as not worth my money. Sure, Punk coming out at the end was a surprise, and the Mysterio/Jericho and Edge/Hardy matches were good. But nothing else, really made me sit up and go Wow!
Drowgoddess: No, not at all. Lots of people are going to feel ripped off as far as this show is concerned.
As well they should.
Legend Killer: Although, those who are Batista/Cena/Punk fans will feel quite happy
Drowgoddess: This is what happens when you shove too many ppvs in a year out there.
True. I revel with the Punk fans.
Legend Killer: The next PPV is just three weeks away, the Bash. Will you be watching?
Drowgoddess: It’s too early to tell. Those of us not billionaires have to pick and choose our shows. I’ll be watching TNA’s “Slammiversary” for sure, and “The Bash” is the following Sunday. I’ll wait and see what the card is before committing to another ppv.
Legend Killer: Whereas I wont be watching any of them. Pay-Pre-Views just arent as good as they used to be.
Drowgoddess: Generally speaking, I have to agree with you, but there are good reasons for watching “Slammiversary” this year.
Again, if there weren’t so many ppvs, the quality would almost HAVE to go up.
Legend Killer: You would think so
Drowgoddess: A ppv should never feel like an episode of tv that you shelled out $30 or $40 to watch.
Legend Killer: exactly
and especially, when you can watch the high points of the PPV matches, on the next week’s weekly shows
Drowgoddess: Over and over and over again.
That really doesn’t make the paying customer feel very smart.
Legend Killer: No it doesnt, it’s a shame the WWE got rid of these streams
Drowgoddess: Indeed.
Legend Killer: Well, I’d say that about call it a night.
Drowgoddess: Agreed.
Legend Killer: Thank you for joining me for the BWF post-PPV recap
Drowgoddess: My pleasure, anytime.
Legend Killer: My thanks to ThinkSoJoe and Drowgoddess for helping with BoredWrestlingFan.com’s coverage of WWE Extreme Rules, this has been the one they call ‘Legend Killer’, reminding you to tune in this Wednesday for my column, plus for all thr weekly wrestling coverage as well. So long from Extreme Rules!
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Legend Killer: this could be good, if the streams decide to work lol
ThinkSoJoe: right. The one I’m watching is up and running the pre-show, so I should be good unless WWE snipes it at some point
Legend Killer: I have one thats died and another that just loves to cut out
ThinkSoJoe: well, that was weird. the pre-show just ended and my browser crashed. I got it back up though.
Legend Killer: somehow I see the WWE sniping this like 2 seconds in
Legend Killer: It contains scenes not suitable for children LOL
ThinkSoJoe: Well, I guess we’ll find out in about two minutes if you’re right. I love the European disclaimer at the start of the shows over there
ThinkSoJoe: Kofi Kingston is out first – breaking the age old wrestling tradition that says the champion comes out last
ThinkSoJoe: This match could do well as just Kingston vs. MVP in a rematch from Monday. Luckily Matt Hardy and William Regal are pretty good wrestlers in their own right and will probably add to the match quality rather than take away from it
ThinkSoJoe: Matt Hardy’s trying to steal a win, but Kingston is holding his own
ThinkSoJoe: Regal caught Kofi out of the Trouble in Paradise, tossed him into Hardy – Kofi got a two on the move
ThinkSoJoe: Trouble in Paradise on Regal – Kingston retains!
Legend Killer: that was predicted, you dont normally change a title twice in a week
ThinkSoJoe: I’m 1 for 1 so far tonight in my predictions from my column from yesterday
Legend Killer: I made my predictions in the forum at WWI
ThinkSoJoe: Josh Matthews is special. He gets to be on RAW and ECW for some reason
Legend Killer: maybe because he finished third in Tough Enough?
ThinkSoJoe: Big Show has his own bus. He’s planning on doing worse to Cena than what he did at Backlash.
ThinkSoJoe: shhh… don’t tell anybody – Rey lost his mask in WCW
Legend Killer: maybe Big Show thinks he’s DX?
Legend Killer: or the new Lex Luger?
Legend Killer: is it just me, or is Jericho getting as big as JBL?
ThinkSoJoe: he’s definitely put on a bit of weight
Legend Killer: it looks like he could eat the Filthy Animal
ThinkSoJoe: Even with his added girth, Jericho’s still a hell of a wrestler
Legend Killer: I cannot agree more
ThinkSoJoe: nice counter there by Jericho, catching Rey out of a low dropkick into a Walls of Jericho attempt
Legend Killer: oh no shit JR, the first time the IC Title has been defended at Extreme Rules
Legend Killer: probably because this is the first Extreme Rules PPV, do we really think we’re that stupid?
ThinkSoJoe: finally, we’re getting down to the no holds barred stuff. sort of. I don’t think the plastic top piece of the table is really going to make a difference.
ThinkSoJoe: I just saw WCW Rey Mysterio!
Legend Killer: without the mask?
Legend Killer: They dont want Mysterio to look 6
ThinkSoJoe: indeed, Jericho had it pulled up, Rey’s face was on camera.
ThinkSoJoe: interesting note is that Jericho mentions in his book “A Lion’s Tale” that the first time he met Mysterio, he thought he was a 12 year old kid.
Legend Killer: thats because he really is 12
ThinkSoJoe: Rey’s call got disconnected – nice backbreaker by Jericho
Legend Killer: they just say he’s older so he can drink
Legend Killer: Why do I see Rey winning?
ThinkSoJoe: Jericho once again hits the Codebreaker out of nowhere
Legend Killer:oh look, 619 got countered! HA!
ThinkSoJoe: Finally, some plunder – Jericho’s got a chair
Legend Killer: I’ve somewhat enjoyed this match
ThinkSoJoe: Rey Rey goes Raven with the drop toe hold onto the chair
ThinkSoJoe: WALLS OF JERICHO out of nowhere! But a nice counter by Mysterio with the chair!
Legend Killer: I was gonna say, that chair seems comviently placed doesnt it
ThinkSoJoe: Jericho got the mask! And the Intercontinental Championship for the 9th time!
Legend Killer: look at his small, small head
ThinkSoJoe: Jericho should start collecting trophies from his opponents like he did in WCW
ThinkSoJoe: in fact, bring back the WCW trophies, such as Juventud Guerrera’s mask and whatnot
Legend Killer: it wouldnt surprise me if they re-hashed old gimmicks for Jericho
ThinkSoJoe: they’re not really going to do the WWE Championship match this early, are they?
Legend Killer: is Batista/Randy next?
ThinkSoJoe: well, I did see Josh Matthews standing by with Batista, so maybe they’re just re-living what happened on Monday for the fun of it
ThinkSoJoe: Batista wants Orton to get ready for a long road of pain and suffering.
Legend Killer: or because they have to kill time
ThinkSoJoe: Samoan Strap match is next. Complete with a real live Samoan
ThinkSoJoe: According to JR, Umaga was not born on the Bayou. Thank you for pointing that out there, Jimmy.
Legend Killer: He’s been the king of the obvious tonight has Good Ol’ JR
ThinkSoJoe: shouldn’t the arms be crossed on CM Punk’s shirt? I mean, it’s a cool shirt and all, but when does he just put his arms like that?
ThinkSoJoe: notice they never show the part where Umaga actually challenged Punk to a strap match in plain English?
ThinkSoJoe: I think this is the first time the announcers have actually pointed out that you have to be dragging your opponent by the strap when you touch the turnbuckles in these kind of matches. I was wondering why the faster guys never just tried to run around the ring touching the turnbuckles as soon as the bell rings
ThinkSoJoe: a sign of the dumbing down of humanity – there’s actually a score graphic to illustrate if a corner has been touched, despite the fact that you have to touch all four uninterrupted. There’s only four corners, it’s not that hard to keep up, people.
Legend Killer: they are dumbiying this down for children remember
ThinkSoJoe: ah, the old PG rating
Legend Killer: people like us who have a fully developed brain can understand
ThinkSoJoe: but still, my four year old can count to four, I don’t know how hard it is to figure out
Legend Killer: but those who the WWE are targeting as their fanbase, they have to explain everything to them
ThinkSoJoe: I suppose those who found RAW at the Staples Center a couple weeks ago entertaining would probably need to have this concept visually explained to them
Legend Killer: they’re probably wondering what the red and green lights mean
Legend Killer: for us well minded people, JBL beat Eddie Guerrero in a similar match for the WWE Championship at the first WWE version of the Great American Bash
ThinkSoJoe: Umaga showcases his strength with that pull of the strap
ThinkSoJoe: GO TO SLEEP! and Punk falls conveniently back into the fourth corner and picks up the win!
ThinkSoJoe: now maybe Punk can go on to other things, like using the MiTB briefcase again
Legend Killer: I forgot he had that until it said at the start
ThinkSoJoe: well there it is. He’s confusing it for a hat
ThinkSoJoe: Gregory Helms standing by with Captain Charisma. WASSUPWITDAT?!?
ThinkSoJoe: Dreamer seems confident. Hey look, it’s Jack Thhhhhhwagger
Legend Killer: it’s Dusty Rhodes!!!… I mean Jack Swagger!
ThinkSoJoe: Ah Tony Chimel. I remember when you got to work more than one match at a PPV
ThinkSoJoe: Christian’s got a 33% chance of leaving with his championship – but it’s “hardcore rules,” which completely benefits Tommy Dreamer
ThinkSoJoe: and once again, the Champion is out first for the title match
Legend Killer: although Jericho came out first, so it-s 1 and 1 in that count
ThinkSoJoe: You are correct, sir
ThinkSoJoe: ECW Chants – I bet Vince can’t wait to get rid of Dreamer, which will probably kill that chant off in WWE once and for all
Legend Killer: the ECW chant will never die
Legend Killer: it’s like Matt Hardy
ThinkSoJoe: Tommy and Christian bringing the Extreme
ThinkSoJoe: Tommy needs to hit people with random things again, not just the usual crap
ThinkSoJoe: I remember in ECW he hit a guy with a Nintendo
ThinkSoJoe: Christian did the Tree of Woe dropkick – that’s gimmick infringement!
Legend Killer: Jack Swagger is gimmick infringement of Dusty Rhodes.
Legend Killer: is Dreamer and Christian carrying this match?
ThinkSoJoe: THhhhhwagger’s gotten a bit of offense in so far
ThinkSoJoe: but indeed it’s mostly Christian and Dreamer
Legend Killer: which doesnt surprise me
ThinkSoJoe: Tower of Doom by Christian, Dreamer crashes into the trash cans and Swagger to the mat
Legend Killer: that move is unique to WWE, yet TNA seem to do it every PPV
ThinkSoJoe: I used to see it in NSPW before I ever saw it on TV
ThinkSoJoe: In fact, I think Eric Young was the first one I saw do the move
ThinkSoJoe: DREAMER WINS! DREAMER WINS!
ThinkSoJoe: Did Striker just say Dreamer’s real name on the show?
Legend Killer: I missed it
ThinkSoJoe: Dreamer picked it up with a crutch shot and DDT to Thhhwagger
Legend Killer: I just caught the replay, notice how Christian didnt get pinned
ThinkSoJoe: yup
Legend Killer: we are 1 hour and 17 minutes into the PPV, and already four matches are won and done
ThinkSoJoe: and two titles have changed hands
and I’m currently two for four
Legend Killer: I’m three for four
ThinkSoJoe: Chavo just got popped in the snout by Aunt Vickie
Legend Killer: the winner will join Henry Godwinn as the only winners of a Hog Pen match
ThinkSoJoe: Jerry Lawler is standing by a bunch of pigs. And I don’t mean the Jerry Lawler type of pig, I mean like real pigs
did he say “without further doo doo?” Is John Cena scripting Jerry Lawler’s promos?
Legend Killer: I thought for a second it was Billy and Chuck
ThinkSoJoe: You asked about three minute warning earlier, well, you know what happened to Rico’s theme music.
Legend Killer: I bet we can reviews this match without needing to watch it
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Legend Killer: oh look, Lieutenant Loco is taking the place of Vickie
ThinkSoJoe: I wonder if Corporal Cajun will make a triumphant return to help out tonight – they are in Louisiana
Legend Killer: Doesnt the Cajun do cartoons for a wrestling magazine?
ThinkSoJoe: As a matter of fact, he does for PWI
Legend Killer: I thought so
ThinkSoJoe: Vickie’s been slopped.
Legend Killer: Cole’s impersonation of JR. Slop! Slop! Slop!
ThinkSoJoe: Vickie did the J.O.B.
Legend Killer: Goldust has turretts again
ThinkSoJoe: Goldust needs expense reports signed – and still has turrets
ThinkSoJoe: no, Chavo, I’m laughing at you
ThinkSoJoe: EDGE!
Legend Killer: they’re not even married are they?
ThinkSoJoe: Edge calling for the divorce. First Jeff Hardy, then the marriage
Not a good night to be the GM of RAW
Legend Killer: here comes the Cage!!
ThinkSoJoe: Speaking of RAW…
ThinkSoJoe: be interesting to see which superstar is out first
…and it’s the Champ
Legend Killer: 1 and 2 for champs out first
ThinkSoJoe: so that’s three out of four title matches tonight where the Champion has come out first – tradition be damned, it’s Extreme!
Legend Killer: but Kofi’s the only one to retain
ThinkSoJoe: So far. This and the World Heavyweight Championship to go for title matches
ThinkSoJoe: John Cena vs. The Big Show is still to come as well
Legend Killer: wheres Triple H?
ThinkSoJoe: “injured”
Legend Killer: isnt it about time he returns?
ThinkSoJoe: he was kicked in the head at Backlash, which was in April, so given the timetable for a return from the Randy Orton Mega Final – whatever G-Bag calls it is about 4 months, so since we’re talking about The Game, probably soon
Legend Killer: he is the Super-Being Triple H after all
Drowgoddess: I’m in!
Like Flynn!
ThinkSoJoe: LK and I were just discussing the timetable for a Triple H return from his “injury”
DrowGoddess: A Randy Orton Super Mega Kick of Final Ultimate Death
I see.
Legend Killer: it only took Vince like a month to come back didnt it?
ThinkSoJoe: He got kicked in the head before the Royal Rumble in January and came back after WrestleMania in April, so three months
(LK EDIT: Vince McMahon was back the RAW before Wrestlemania.)
Drowgoddess: But he was, of course, superhuman.
ThinkSoJoe: well, of course. He’s the boss.
Drowgoddess: How much more superhuman than Vince is Trips supposed to be?
ThinkSoJoe: He’s not – Vince came back from torn quads faster than Triple H did
Drowgoddess: Didn’t Vince tear two and Trips just one?
ThinkSoJoe: indeed
Drowgoddess: Ok, let me rephrase. Trips is Vince’s representative on Earth, and therefore cannot compete with his power, but is the next closest thing.
ThinkSoJoe: that sounds about right.
Drowgoddess: Who thinks the Batista chants are “helped?”
Of course, he may actually be that popular.
What do I know of such things?
ThinkSoJoe: Batista recently lost a cage match to Jericho – and Monday on RAW defeated Cody Rhodes in a cage by pinfall instead of climbing out of the cage. Then he didn’t climb in to help Ric Flair. Perhaps Batista’s been rendered incapable of physically climbing the cage?
Drowgoddess: Between nailing Divas like his name was Bob Vila and “medicating,” would you be shocked that he can’t?
ThinkSoJoe: As far as Batista’s popularity, I’ve been at WWE shows with Batista chants, but the one I attended recently wasn’t one of them
Drowgoddess: I remember when Randy ORton had reversals for everything.
Drowgoddess: My friend Arthur was playing an e-fed character called “The Pinfall Wizard” Michael merlin (from the mean streets of suburban Delaware), and he thought that Orton was the exact wrestling style that his character would have.
ThinkSoJoe: Chris Jericho is the one who does that now. Hell, he reversed a 619 into stealing Mysterio’s mask and rolling him up for a pin earlier in the night.
ThinkSoJoe: Holy shit – Batista won?
Drowgoddess: BULLSHIT!!!
Legend Killer: Oh FUCK no
ThinkSoJoe: WHHHHHHHHHHHHHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY?!?!?!?!?
As if RAW didn’t suck bad enough as it was
Drowgoddess: What the fuck was that???
Legend Killer: he must’ve ‘polished off’ Triple H
ThinkSoJoe: look – he’s climbing the ropes but not even bothering to climb up the cage to show off the belt
Legend Killer: thats because he cant
Drowgoddess: What a shit match for a world title change, regardless of the outcome. And the outcome is proof that there is no god.
ThinkSoJoe: I absolutely have to agree with you on that one, Drow
ThinkSoJoe: Hopefully this means Edge is going over
ThinkSoJoe: Hell, they have to have The Big Show go over Cena too to make up for this shit
Legend Killer: If Edge doesnt win, I’m rioting
Drowgoddess: A one-man Aussie riot. I’d pay to see that. Moreso than this show.
Legend Killer: mand I’m starting with PenisMan himself, Batista
Drowgoddess: It’s at times like this that I feel TNA gets a disproportionate share of shit from people.
ThinkSoJoe:You can’t lose a step if you never had it, Cena!
ThinkSoJoe: Which means I’m probably stuck watching John Cena and The Big Show pretend they know how to properly apply submission holds
Legend Killer: oh wait, I’m back
Drowgoddess: And better than ever…
ThinkSoJoe: got a knack for making things better?
Legend Killer: I’m surprised their not showing footage from 2004 and WM
Legend Killer: face facts, cause your opinion dont matter
ThinkSoJoe: my official prediction for this match on BWF yesterday was that I’m going to fall asleep.
Legend Killer: my predcition is Cena, because Cena secretly wears the Yellow and Red
ThinkSoJoe: The only thing that could save this match is the ghost of he-who-shall-remain-nameless coming back and making them both tap in a total of 5 seconds. Or killing them
ThinkSoJoe: I did wind up saying Cena would win
Legend Killer: theres no pillows or kettle cords, so theres no chance of that happening
Drowgoddess: I’d rather see Benoit kill them both than watch this match.
ThinkSoJoe: The set for this PPV is a giant X. That’s almost as good of a set as the inVasion set with it’s giant V
ThinkSoJoe: wtf. There wasn’t a PPV in March, but since WrestleMania, there’s been a WWE PPV every three weeks.
Drowgoddess: Ooo! Maybe Bryan Danielson is stopping by to see Regal, and he hits the ring to show those bitches what real submission wrestling is all about!
Drowgoddess: It’s what Jesus would do.
You know you want it.
ThinkSoJoe: I’ve never wanted to see Kurt Angle make a run-in any more than I do right now.
Drowgoddess: Ok, yeah, but I like my idea better.
Drowgoddess: Is it a submission if Big SHow sits on your chest?
ThinkSoJoe: I guess you get what you pay for – or in this case, don’t pay for
Drowgoddess: Ah, back on.
Not that that’s a good thing.
ThinkSoJoe: *disclaimer: BoredWrestlingFan.com and it’s staff do not endorse streaming PPV feeds*
Legend Killer: *disclaimer* However, the staff member who writes columns on Wednesdays endorses not paying for a WWE Pay Per View*
Drowgoddess: *disclaimer* The Executive Shareholder endorses ppvs not being mind-numbingly shit-tacular, regardless of company.
ThinkSoJoe: I figure if I say we don’t endores streaming the PPVs then it’s less damaging if WWE reads this review and decides “hey, these guys are telling people that it’s possible to watch our completely unnecessary and shitty PPVs for free on the internet”
Drowgoddess: Good point.
ThinkSoJoe: especially since I’d be the one getting the letter from their attorney
Drowgoddess: That’s why you’re the boss.
Drowgoddess: But hey, we’d be proving Vince’s assertion that fans watch the show together, instead of each person buying it separately.
🙂
ThinkSoJoe: and if WWE legal are reading this, Hi, Mr. McDevitt!
Drowgoddess: I’m glad Big Show is enjoying something about this. Someone should, it sure as hell isn’t us.
Jerry! Wassup, man!
ThinkSoJoe: of course, if anybody from WWE were actually reading this, they’d know that real fans hate John Cena and Batista
Legend Killer: if WWE were watching, they’d have shut BWF down due to my links in my columns
Drowgoddess: The man has a point.
ThinkSoJoe: this is true
Legend Killer: how can this match go longer than anything else so far?
Drowgoddess: Your links are patently offensive.
ThinkSoJoe: This match isn’t over yet?
Drowgoddess: Slow, lumbering plodding takes time.
Legend Killer: my links also dont lead to what I hint them to
ThinkSoJoe: the longer this crap goes, the shorter the ladder match that everybody actually wants to watch will be
Drowgoddess: Therein lies the beauty of them.
ThinkSoJoe: I hate leaving comments about the links in your articles, LK, for the sheer fact that I don’t want to spoil them for anybody who reads the comments first for some reason
Drowgoddess: You know, at “Tag Wars 2008,” ROH had a tag match between AOTF (Black and Jacobs) and the MCMG. It really ended up being a submissions match between Alex Shelley’s Border City Stretch and Jimmy Jacobs’s End Times. THAT was a fantastic submissions match. I wish I were watching that match right now.
Drowgoddess: Sorry, I waxed nostalgic for actual submission wrestling done by people who, you know, can actually do it.
In case WWE reads this.
😛
ThinkSoJoe: every time I see a submission match between two guys who suck at submission holds, I really miss Kurt Angle and you-know-who. Their ultimate submission match was just pure awesome
ThinkSoJoe: hooray for using the attitude adjustment in a submission match.
ThinkSoJoe: goodnight, Cena
Drowgoddess: I don’t mean to sound rude, because you ARE the man, but why do you call him you-know-who? This isn’t “Harry Potter,” and I don’t see the point in not saying his name when everyone knows who he was.
ThinkSoJoe: “if Cena can’t answer the count, this one’s over”
when did this become a last man standing match?
Drowgoddess: You’re totally right about the match, though. A thing of beauty, it was.
Drowgoddess: Don’t get me wrong, I’m not stepping on your right to call it as you see it, I just honestly want to know from someone who isn’t twelve or retarded. Or both.
Drowgoddess: BULLSHIT!!!!
Drowgoddess: Sure, we could all see it coming, but I cry BULLSHIT!!!
ThinkSoJoe: bullshit or not, it’s thankfully over.
Drowgoddess: Indeed.
My soul hurts.
ThinkSoJoe: for the record – no problem with mentioning Benoit by name, just habit after two years.
Drowgoddess: Ok.
The best announcers ever could not make this match work.
The only thing extreme about that match was my desire to gouge out my own eyes with a plastic fork.
ThinkSoJoe: PPVs have to end by – I think – 10:57, so with intro video and entrances, we’re looking at no more than 30 minutes for this one
Drowgoddess: They can make it work. They’re both good enough.
Legend Killer: I thought they had to end 10 minutes before
ThinkSoJoe: it’s either 10:53 or 10:57
I’m not entirely positive
and that’s here in the States, so I don’t know if it’s earlier on that side of the pond
Drowgoddess: Either way, WWE isn’t know for filling the entire time.
ThinkSoJoe: JR mentions Bob Vila just about an hour after Drowgoddess mentions him in our conversation here. Is JR spying on us?
Legend Killer: Thats not good
Drowgoddess: But does JR have a webcam?
ThinkSoJoe: Once again, the Champion makes his way out first
Drowgoddess: If we can’t be personally identified, nothing can be proven.
Anyone could have sat here and typed.
Legend Killer: I just realized, I have to somehow edit this (LK EDIT: The edit is what you’re reading right now :D)
Drowgoddess: HAHAHAHAHAHA!
Legend Killer: and turn it into something readable
ThinkSoJoe: yup. You sure do
Drowgoddess: SOrry, that was rude of me.
Drink up, then!
Legend Killer: and the Vampiro fans go wild
Drowgoddess: Are there any left?
ThinkSoJoe: I’m still a fan of Vampiro
Legend Killer: I thought they were gonna call him the Charismatic Enigma
ThinkSoJoe: They’ve been calling him the unique enigma. I’m sure if you search for Charismatic Enigma you’ll eventually find the DVD that TNA put out on him
Drowgoddess: I liked Vampiro back in the day. He’s honestly been off my radar. I watch him every now and then on the luche libre show on Galavision.
Legend Killer: I believe they’re still selling that DVD on shoptna.com
Drowgoddess: Unique enigma is even dumber than the original name.
Legend Killer: its better than the ‘Rainbow Warrior’
Legend Killer: these two are the best in ladder matches *cough*Shawn Michaels*cough*
Drowgoddess: I’ll give Michaels credit where it’s due, but even things that the great and powerful Michaels has done can be improved upon.
Legend Killer: I’m finding it funny that Todd Grisham is trying to tell us that this is the first Ladder match Jeff Hardy and Edge have competed in
ThinkSoJoe: these guys get the credit though because they took the standard that Shawn Michaels set and, as Drow said, improved on it
Drowgoddess: Perhaps he means against each other, one on one. Or perhaps he’s retarded.
ThinkSoJoe: I’m sure he meant it’s the first singles ladder match between the two
Drowgoddess: YEs. What he said.
🙂
Legend Killer: I agree. Todd Grisham is retarded
Legend Killer: Edge meet Ladder. Ladder meet Edge
ThinkSoJoe: and now, Mr. Ladder, let me introduce you to Jeff Hardy
Drowgoddess: Now that we all know each other….
Legend Killer: Those ladders will not give, yet that ladder is bent up all out of shape
Drowgoddess: Shhh!
ThinkSoJoe: that ladder must’ve been in the clearance aisle at the home depot
it was a factory defect
Drowgoddess: This show is a factory defect.
Todd Grisham is a factory defect.
Legend Killer: Factory defect? I thought all ladders were meant to have a guy like Hardy fall on them
WWE Extreme Rules is a Factory Defect
ThinkSoJoe: how much do you think the annual ladder budget is for WWE?
Drowgoddess: What’s the entirity of the Gross National Product of Sweden?
Legend Killer: thats probably why Jeff Hardy wont re-sign, they’re taking the Ladders out of his paycheck
Drowgoddess: LOL
ThinkSoJoe: best submission hold I’ve seen all night – and there was a submission match on the card!
Drowgoddess: Two of the best wrestlers all night.
Legend Killer: I still dont know how a Submission match is ‘Extreme’
It’s about as extreme as a ‘Judy Bagwell on a Pole’ match
Drowgoddess: It would have been if Angle and Danielson and Low Ki were doing it.
Or Samoa Joe from 2004-06.
ThinkSoJoe: the fatal four way “stipulation” was more extreme than that submission match
Legend Killer: or these two circa 2001
reviewing Extreme Rules the way we have, is more extreme than a Submission match
Drowgoddess: Playing around with my dogs is more extreme than that submission match.
Legend Killer: getting up of a morning is more extreme than a Submission match
Drowgoddess: A working ladder. As opposed to the white-collar variety.
ThinkSoJoe: I’m getting ready for work right now – and THAT’S more extreme than a submission match
Legend Killer: why doesn’t Jeff just knock the title down with the Ladder?
Drowgoddess: Look at the size of that ladder! Could Todd Grisham be much more homoerotic?
ThinkSoJoe: he does know he’s nowhere near the belt, right?
Legend Killer: I wanted to see Jeff’s legs stretch like a Stretch Armstrong
ThinkSoJoe: oh shit, that was a slick move by Hardy. Kid’s got more guts than brains, but that was a smart move right there
Drowgoddess: Edge’s move was likewise smart.
ThinkSoJoe: Hardy, for those reading the conversation instead of watching the match, tipped a very tall ladder in the corner forward and kind of fell on the belt. Edge sprang up and pulled him down off the title
Legend Killer: Why wouldnt someone else not in the match, think of climbing up the ladder whilst these two are outside, and grab the title?
ThinkSoJoe: because it wouldn’t count. Unless you’re CM Punk.
Legend Killer: Why wouldnt it count? You could claim to be World Champion
much like if you did it at Wrestlemania in MiTB
Drowgoddess: You could claim to be Emperor of Rome, and if you aren’t booked in the match, it won’t count.
ThinkSoJoe: this isn’t TNA where you can just steal something and then defend it at will
Drowgoddess: Oh, snap!
Legend Killer: or WCW where you can find a title in the rubbish and claim it as your own
Drowgoddess: But that’s just the American Way!
ThinkSoJoe: well, to be fair, WWE did something similar when Mideon found the European Championship in Shane’s bag
Drowgoddess: But that was kind of funny.
Kind of.
Legend Killer: It could have been Naked Mideon?
Legend Killer: I wonder do they realize that their not gonna reach the title from there?
ThinkSoJoe: shades of WrestleMania 23
Legend Killer: will those Ladders give now JR?
Drowgoddess: Jeebus, that looked like it hurt a LOT.
Drowgoddess: Can they talk about impact on WWE programming?
ThinkSoJoe: after that fall through a ladder, they’re back in the ring and trying to climb for the title? Somebody should do an article on the art of selling.
ThinkSoJoe: Oh wait
Legend Killer: is that a ref bump in a Ladder match?
ThinkSoJoe: Twist of Fate out of a midair spear!
Drowgoddess: That’s a great idea, someone should.
Wow!!!
Legend Killer: That was impressive
Legend Killer: We ready for the post PPV show Drow?
Drowgoddess: Huh?
Legend Killer: may as well do a post-PPV show considering we’re here
Drowgoddess: Ok.
ThinkSoJoe: Hardy just tied Edge up in the ladder…. NEW CHAMPION!
Legend Killer: Oh FUCK no
ThinkSoJoe: Well, my predictions all sucked for tonight
Drowgoddess: Your predictions weren’t the only thing.
Legend Killer: I enjoyed Mysterio and Jericho for some reason
ThinkSoJoe: this show certainly isn’t going to be the breeding ground for any MOTY conversations, but I have to agree that Mysterio and Jericho wasn’t terrible
ThinkSoJoe: Show’s not over yet folks…
Legend Killer: CM Punk!!
ThinkSoJoe: IT’S CM PUNK!!!
Drowgoddess: So we have Kofi as IC champ, Batista as one world champ and Jeff HArdy as the other.
ThinkSoJoe: LET’S GO PUNK!!
Legend Killer: this is what happens when you dont sign new deals Jeff
ThinkSoJoe: GTS! NEW CHAMPION – WHAT?!
ThinkSoJoe: Hardy Kicked Out!
ThinkSoJoe: Hardy gets two!
ThinkSoJoe: this PPV just got exciting
Legend Killer: things just got exciting all of a sudden
ThinkSoJoe: GTS #2
Drowgoddess: I want Punk to win, but I don’t see it.
ThinkSoJoe: 1, 2, 3 NEW CHAMPION!!
Drowgoddess: YES!!!!!!!!
Sweet mother of god, YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Legend Killer: Two NEW Champions in the space of three minutes
ThinkSoJoe: Finally, something good on this PPV
Drowgoddess: CM Punk ruined nothing, JR!
ThinkSoJoe: CM Punk is your New World’s Heavyweight Champion!
Legend Killer: at least they know how to end things with a BANG!
ThinkSoJoe: OMG what an end to a pretty weak show
ThinkSoJoe: Hardy winning would’ve been enough, really, but Punk taking it makes it even better
Legend Killer: it kinda makes it worthwhile in a sense
Drowgoddess: Too bad Punk isn’t supposed to turn heel. As popular as HArdy is, it would be a g reat time.
ThinkSoJoe: I’ve got to get out of here guys
Drowgoddess: Awww.
Bye, then, Joe!
ThinkSoJoe: Later
Legend Killer: Joe leaves for work, now stay tuned for the post-PPV show